View Full Version : Conti Attack Race Comp tires opinion..
Rassie
10-01-2008, 08:06 AM
Anyone have an opinion on the Continental Attack Race COMP tires...I just oredered a set due to the good price. The grapevine suggests that they have good grip and stability with fast warmup even without tire warmers and good wear.. Anyone care to provide an opinion based on previous personal experience or experience from other reliable objective sources..
dolech
10-01-2008, 01:03 PM
like to know also
JGardy_781
10-01-2008, 01:38 PM
Not firsthand, but see the 2008 600cc Sportbike Comparison Test on sportrider.com - page 10 of 11. They used these tires as a control for the track portion of the test. Quote as follows:
"Grip from the ContiRaceAttack Comp tires was excellent, although not on par with the latest DOT race tires from Pirelli and Dunlop that we've recently sampled-especially in terms of edge grip. The tires did offer neutral steering characteristics along with good drive and braking traction, and wear over the course of the day was as expected for race tires."
/j
Rassie
10-02-2008, 08:06 AM
Jason,
Thanks that helps. Since I am currently a mid pack "I' rider on my VTR1000 Super Hawk these should work fine for me based on this and other off forum feedback. I sometimes felt that I was to the edge of adhesion on the DC3's which started to move around a little in hot conditions when pushed. I expect to be a tad faster on the new CBR600rr and opted to get something a little better than Pirelli Diablo Corsa 3's. It looks like these tyres fit nicely into this category and they are only slightly more expensive than DC3' and quite a bit cheaper than PD Super C's as well. I will try them and see how they work and post a report back. I am going to Bevaerun on Oct 18 and will try them there.
stealth 521
10-02-2008, 09:02 AM
i never tried the cont. tires. but as of the dc111, i ran those tires for the first half of the season. i race with wera and used them for my first 5 rounds of racing and ended up with 2 first places and a couple 2nd places. i think they are a great trackday tire. i would guess u ride at beaver being from pa, beaverun has very good grip. maybe u should try to play with the tire pressure or your suspension a bit. it may help. if u do get the cont., please let everybody know what u think. thanks
Second hand experience on both views
Owner of a shop that i take my bike to for service, runs A group and has had very good luck with these tires and is happy with the amount of grip they offer. I think he runs warmers on his tires at the track.
Was at Beaver on 9/5 and had a freind running A group and the rear tire just ripped, he went with the recomended air pressures for the tires and by the end of his third session the tire looked bad, he adjusted the pressure some for the next day and ended up going down. He bought a set of corsa pro's at the track, re teched and had no problems the rest of the day.
physicistkev
10-02-2008, 11:04 AM
Lots of people run DCIII's in Advanced, including myself. Given the weight of my bike I would think that the DCIII's are good for anyone at a trackday on a modern sportbike.
The most important thing to remember is this.
Tires don't make you crash! Over riding your tires does. If you haven't learned how to listen to what your tires are telling you, your gonna crash on any tire!
For example, after 3 days on a DCIII rear I am about 2 seconds off my best lap time. This is due to adjustments I make because the tire is sliding more. There is nothing wrong with the tire, it's just lost some of it's grip. As long as I listen to it, I will never "crash because of a tire."
When people say they crashed due to a tire I have to chuckle to myself. The tire didn't cause the crash, the rider didn't listen to the tire telling him/her that it was running out of grip. The only way a tire can cause a crash is if it goes flat, or comes apart. Something drastic. This is not meant to be offensive or brash, but riders need to learn that its about the rider, not the equipment.
I am sure the Conti tire will allow anyone to go at a good A pace, maybe a fast A pace.
twin ty
10-02-2008, 11:19 AM
Also a write up in the SportRider July 08 issue pg 52 on the Continentals.
Ty
Rassie
10-02-2008, 12:35 PM
Just to level set. I have absolutely no problems with DC3's they are a fantastic tire and have served me well both at the track and on the street. I have been using PDC for 4 years now without any issues or complaints. They grip great, they last well and they provide good feedback.
I want to enable myself to go up to a higher level of riding safely without having to worry about tires and I felt like I was pushing the limit's on the DC3's every once in a while which means they gave me the feedback I was expecting from the tire and doing what they are supposed to, put me on notice.
I was going to get the PDSuperC's but the Conti's were cheaper and since I am not Bill Gates..:doh: I figured what the hell I'll try them, maybe I like them...and if not then I will know how they perform..:notsure:
physicistkev
10-02-2008, 01:34 PM
I made the switch from Michelin PP to the DCIII's for $ alone. I also can't seem to bring myself to buy a newer bike, *cough*cheap bastard*cough*, so I understand wanting to get more for less. I should have summed up a little better.
I think the Conti's will give you at least as much as the DCIII's. If the price difference is big enough, you should give them a try. As long as you can listen to the tire, I don't think your going to do any damage by trying them. In fact, changing tires will probably help you learn more about you and your bike on the track as you should "feel" different characteristics from tire to tire.
And if it turns out you like them, you can save some money in the process :)
bigkaley
10-03-2008, 09:50 AM
Rassie,
You had said that you felt you were "to the edge of adhesion on the DC3's which started to move around a little in hot conditions when pushed". Just as a couple of quick questions: Did you run tire pressures in the 32 psi. "hot" range and continue to check tire pressures throughout the day? How well is your suspension set up?
I'm sure you know the Pirelli's normally "talk" to you by moving around a little but will continue to grip.
Let us know what you think about the Conti's and maybe how they compare to other tires you've tried.
Rassie
10-04-2008, 03:08 PM
Rassie,
You had said that you felt you were "to the edge of adhesion on the DC3's which started to move around a little in hot conditions when pushed". Just as a couple of quick questions: Did you run tire pressures in the 32 psi. "hot" range and continue to check tire pressures throughout the day? How well is your suspension set up?
I'm sure you know the Pirelli's normally "talk" to you by moving around a little but will continue to grip.
Let us know what you think about the Conti's and maybe how they compare to other tires you've tried.
I always check my pressures after I come off my session. Front 31 and rear 32 psi both hot. My suspension setup can only be described as "poor" since I am pretty much running stock suspension on my Superhawk. I mean the setup is as good as I will get it without doing expensive mods. However this never seemed to bother me at full lean angle, more on braking and exiting turns. I have had days where I saw some cold tearing due to pressure being to high and the tire not warming enough, so I have experienced what tire pressures can do. You are correct that the Pirelli's talk to you, which I do not mind.
Interesting is for the Conti's they recommend you start with 28f and 24r cold. Still waiting for the hot numbers. I also heard that the Conti's are very sensitive to tire pressures so you need to monitor it all the time. The front has a very round profile and the rear a flatter profile which tells me they will turn in well and probably drive well. I will be sure to post a review here on October 19th.
Rassie
10-20-2008, 11:22 AM
OK guys so I spent the day Saturday at Beaverun with the new bike and new tires. It was cold in the morning (mid 30's) and the tires did not like the cold. It almost felt dangerous when they were cold and since I do not have tire warmers I basically had to crawl along at street speeds for the first two laps. They would squirm and make the bike wander en tuck slightly, not too much just enough to give you warning. On a warm day and later in the afternoon (50's) it was not so much of an issue, still there but much less. So no fault of the tires and if you have warmers you would not even know.
After they warm up though I must admit I was impressed. They have tremendous grip all over the place and feel rock solid under braking and acceleration. I did not push very hard though due to the colder temperature and new bike, overall and was running low 1.10's only, mostly 1.12's. I certainly felt like I could go much faster and even lean it over further, However after inspecting them at the end of the day I noticed I was riding them all the way to the edge with a fair amount of rubber balls hanging off the edge. Wear was good in my opinion, definitely have 2 more track days left in them.
So overall I found them to be confidence inspiring and very stable under braking, full lean angle and acceleration. They warm up pretty fast as well but I will caution you to take 2 easy laps for warmup if you do not have warmers.
The big question for me now is how will they hold up and perform if I start to drop laptimes in the mid 1.00's I know some fast guys run in the 1.00's at Beaver and I have personally run 1.08's with my Super Hawk on Diablo 3's, which I felt was pushing the DC3's limits and they started to move around some. The way the Conti's performed so far I am confident they will work just fine and found them to be more reassuring than the DC3's. It really felt like they had much more in reserve...so overall I give them a :first:.
Having said all that I will probably go back to the DC3's next time around due to pricing offered by Nesba and I am very happy not being the fastest guy on any day and enjoyed riding the pace I was at all day.